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| Kelvin | 17 May | I haven't made it to Sennen for a couple of years, but for years I have been accosted the length and breadth of the country when wearing my "Old Success" T-Shirt, always by friendly people wanting to talk about what a wonderful place Sennen is. Sennen Cove is a magical place and the Old Success is at the heart of it. I can understand people's concerns, but surely the future of the place is in the hands of it's customers, locals and visitors alike? It's immediately obvious to anyone, the first time they visit, that Sennen and the Cove is a living working community and that's reinforced every time you go to The Old Success. I can't imagine the lifeboat or surfschool crews will desert it? and as for any changes the brewery might consider, maybe the old adage if it ain't broke don't fix it should be their guide? I'm hoping to get down to Sennen next year, if not before, so I'll be watching developments with interest. In the meantime, I am worried about one thing - will I be able to get a replacement Old Success T-Shirt, the one I have is worn threadbear!! Anyway, I will add my plea to the others already made to the brewery - please recognise what an asset you've acquired in The Old Success and it'd be nice if you'd invest in it but not at the expense of it's unique character. |
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| Duncan | 16 May | Now I agree with Taff. | ||||
| Anne | 16 May | I'm sad to hear of the sale. Where I come from you don't have to read which brewery owns the pub , you can tell by the décor !! I come from the land locked West Midlands and have been staying in Sennen every February for the last 5 years. Two weeks next Feb' already booked, look forward to seeing you all again. |
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| Veronica | 15 May |
Regarding Duncan's comments about Land's End. Most of the buildings at Land's End are late 1800's. The only additions were the Last Labyrinth, the admin block at the entrance plus the hotel conservatory. The facilities available are there to cater for thousands of people a day not a year. In the 1980's we had over 10,000 visitors there in one day for the Red Arrows display! One toilet and a small tea room would not be suffice any more. Far from being ruined, Land's End and the coastal path have been saved from ruin for generations to come. Veronica
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| Duncan | 13 May | Did I miss something. Do you mean to say that Peter De Savary has bought The Old Success and is turning it into a theme park? | ||||
| Ted & Alice | 13 May | Best wishes to Martin and Andrew for their 'new' futures and thanks for the great times we've had over the years. Congrats to Ollie & Liam on their appointments.(we can carry on our ManU\West Ham chats!) Vince - is the Old success contactable by email ? Look forward to meeting you. |
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| Veronica | 13 May |
I just wanted to point out that Charlies Bar at the Old Success was not named after Charlie Trenary. Charlie the barman worked for several owners of the Old Success in the 50's and 60's. The Old Success was privately owned then and I enjoyed working there for quite a few years. We were all local staff then and loads of famous people came to stay as it was quite exclusive! We had a fabulous time and feel very sad thinking of how things have changed but it's the same everywhere unfortunately. Veronica
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| RAV | 13 May | Being pedantic but ------- "Charlies Bar" was so called because the barman in the early 1960's was called Charlie. Original eh?? I'm afraid that although "Boy Charlie" Trenary was reported as having been seen in the vicinity of the Old Success from time to time, the bar was not named after him - although he probably paid for the place many times over the years. Mind you, my memory may be a little clouded, as was the Devenish (or "Devilish") bitter that was on tap at the time. Anyone remember the skittle board? |
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| Taff | 13 May | Duncan,
Rather than people wanting their place to “remain in the past’, some of us want a good thing preserved. One only has to look at Lands End to see what “improving” a facility can do. Sure they get far more visitors there than if it had been left as the hotel alone. But few would argue that this “lowest common denominator” approach to what is after all a site of great historical, and heritage, importance, is a good thing. Change is inevitable; however, change for the better is not. Personally, I believe that the needs and desires of those who put money over the bar year round SHOULD be taken into consideration when any change is proposed, after all they are the lifeblood of the bar, and more often than not stalwarts of village life. The changes at the “First and Last”, now fortunately being rectified, are a case in point as to what could happen to the Old Success if change is not managed well. I feel it is right for people who love the cove, and want something good preserved, to raise their concerns. The pub is at the heart of the community, ripping the heart out for commercial advantage would be a VERY BAD thing to do.
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| Vince | 13 May | Hi everyone I would like to put all of you at ease,I can assure you all works carried out to the Old Sucess will be done in a caring and positive way.
I share all your thoughts on a what a fantastic Inn it is and with that in mind im sure you will all agree with me it desserves the very best! St Austell Brewery is a company who care with passion about keeping things traditional and trading with only local Cornish suppliers.
The future for the Inn in my view is very positive and exciting! we will be starting quiz nights again very shortly along with a meal deal on Friday nights,l will also be starting Coffee Mornings for local ladies one day a week dates tbc.
The one thing l promise you all is that the Old Success will stay loyal to its roots and will have what it deserves which is money spent on it to return to its former glory,along with plenty of love and care from myself and my team,on that note my new assistant managers are Oliver George and Liam Addison.
I welcome anyone to pop in for a chat and a coffee and discuss any fears that they have,but i promise you all the Inn will remain the hub of the local community and it will retain its character and charm,along with staying fiercely loyal to the lifeboat men of Sennen Cove.
All plans for the future I will update on this site to keep you all informed.
Best Regards to All
Vincent Jones Manager |
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| Bridget | 12 May | Duncan - I think that maybe people just feel that perfection is very difficult to improve on! We do fall into the visitor category and are counting the days until we return to Sennen in June. And what is wrong with keeping things the way they are?!? I fear change..... Bridget, Ian, Eleanor and Phoebe |
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| Duncan | 11 May | Whilst I agree that change isn't always necessary I do feel that to bemoan the change of ownership of The Old Success does smack of folk wanting their nice quaint holiday spot to remain in the past. People are allowed to buy and sell property and realise investment potential, even, heaven forbid, in lovely Sennen. People and places change, it's inevitable, and I think it's slightly naive and a little condescending to suggest that Sennen and its people can't, just in case the visitors get upset. |
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| Peter B | 10 May |
What is happening to Sennen? No Jackson's stores, no Ser Pren chippy, no Zacky's garage and now...........no Doom Bar or Sharpe's special in the Old Success. We were down for a week recently when the cellar was being altered and we will be down again in five weeks time for a longer spell but it may have to be the Eden Ale in the First and Last! The best St Austell can offer is Proper Job, not bad at 4.3 but a cheesy name! They won't rest until thay have every pub in Cornwall but let's hope they don't change the much loved character of the Old Success.
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| Steven | 10 May | People forget that the Doom Bar used to be Charlie's Bar.
What a fantastic character he was (Charlie Trenary). In the days when my father was alive (and I was well underage) we used to sit and enjoy his company there, and at his lobster pot shed up Stonechair.
Change happens, and I have never liked the Doom Bar. It still feels too sterile for me. Much like many of the pubs in Bath that Lorraine writes of.
Maybe St. Austell Ales will change the layout, but I won't regret that. It'll never be the same as when the Websters owned it.
Anyone remember how the F&L used to be?
Steven
I'll be down this summer - back from working abroad. |
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Dan, Cath, and little Sam.
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10 May |
Gutted, to say the least.
We have been staying either at the hotel or self-catering apartments for the last 5 years, and always rely on it. Will this mean national advertising of this little treasure.
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| Lorraine | 9 May | Also hope that the Old Success doesn't get changed too drastically. Here in Bath loads of decent local pubs have been turned into awful, sterile "gastro pubs" more intent on ripping off patrons with over-priced under-average food and losing all the atmosphere along with the locals.
Hope that the new brewery realises that the Old Success is loved just the way it is. Oh, and my husband will be devastated when I tell him about the Doom Bar! |
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| Sandy | 9 May | I also hope that there are few changes. Stayed for a weekend last November and had a wonderful weekend - food and staff were great and nothing too much trouble. Looking forward to being down again in 10 weeks time. |
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| Leanne | 8 May | I hope the Old Success doesn't change I think its hard to find such a great pub with such fantastic atmosphere. The food is great and we always eat at the pub, lets hope it keeps its character and doesn't just aim to over charge locals and the tourists because of its location. Fingers crossed. | ||||
Taff |
8 May |
Will Martin be staying on? Will Andrew still be pulling pints? I hope they don’t make changes for changes sake, the Old Success was a fine place as it was. I’ll be writing to St Awful Brewery to ask…
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